The king and I - Valery Gergiev interview
Published Date: 03 August 2008 The Scotsman
Legendary conductor Valery Gergiev tells Sarah Urwin Jones why bringing the little-known opera Krol Roger to the global stage is a dream come true on several fronts
IN THE gilt and duck egg blue well of the auditorium at the Mariinsky Theatre in St Petersburg the lights are about to go down for the legendary opera house's latest premiere, Krol Roger, a little known work by Polish composer Karol Szymanowski that will headline the Edinburgh International Festival's Opera programme this year. The opera itself might have been given a contemporary stage makeover, but scanning the auditorium, this could be any first night in the Mariinsky's 150-year history – the scene, as the audience await the arrival of maestro Valery Gergiev, is like a re-enactment by some great opera chorus. Layers of balconies rise up, five high, teaming with bodies, hands hanging over the edge, voices chattering in myriad languages, tiny vignettes of human life playing out in every nook like some great Russian narrative painting in the city's famous Hermitage Museum.
The stalls boxes below are filled with American tourists off the cruise ships, packed 10 in a box where one might more realistically fit four. In the Gods, a man with binoculars surveys the scene, as terrifying blue-uniformed babushkas, like some relic of the Soviet era, direct audiences to their seats.
It's a far cry from the rather more demure tiers of the Edinburgh Festival Theatre where Krol (King) Roger will arrive next month. The Mariinsky last came to Edinburgh in 1995, when chief conductor and artistic director Gergiev gave blistering accounts of Rimsky-Korsakov's operas The Legend Of The Invisible City Of Kitezh and Sadko. More recently, Gergiev turned London on to the delights of Prokofiev's operas, but can he revive the fortunes of the less well-known Szymanowski who, despite becoming more of a household name in recent years for his violin concerto (played by Nicola Benedetti when she won Young Musician Of The Year), is nonetheless somewhat unfamiliar on the Western opera stage. "We have just had a residency by 92-year-old composer Henri Dutilleux," says Gergiev, of the idiosyncratic peer of Boulez and Messiaen, who attended the conductor's three-month long Stars Of The White Nights Festival. "Compared with him, Szymanowski is a picnic."
Gergiev and Edinburgh Festival director Jonathan Mills had been discussing Szymanowski projects for eight years, and the deal was cemented when Mills managed to produce wild kangaroos for Gergiev on a trip to the Melbourne Festival. Aware that the Mariinsky's Krol Roger needed a Polish milieu, Mills tracked down two Polish language productions of the opera set in 14th-century Sicily. Both productions were by respected director Mariusz Trelinski – one very traditionally set, one a contemporary reworking. Trelinski suggested the latter. "It had to mean something for contemporary Poland, with its series of corrupt regimes, where the Church still casts a long shadow," says Mills.
Certainly this new Mariinsky production marks a game stab at the opera's rather ambiguous and deeply psychological drama. On stage, telling the tale of 14th-century Sicilian King Roger, whose court descends into Dionysian chaos at the arrival of a 'heretic' Shepherd, Trelinski's contemporary production sidesteps the overt interpretations placed on the opera in the recent past – which have conjured allegories on everything from repressed homosexuality (Szymanowski struggled morally if not socially with his sexuality) to nefarious cults and the student revolts of 1968 – although still weighs heavy with the ghosts of Poland's, and by extension Russia's, Communist past.
Outside Gergiev's door, ominous heavies in plain clothes stand guard, filtering friend from foe. This native Ossetian, who now considers St Petersburg his home crowd, is rugged, smart if characteristically unshaven, and deeply pressed for time.
"Globalisation?" demurs the hard-working conductor, who also brings his London Symphony Orchestra to Edinburgh for a complete cycle of Prokofiev symphonies. "Ten years ago we went to open a new opera house in Shanghai and I read in The Financial Times that the Mariinsky were the first global orchestra because we covered all five continents.
"Interesting, but that was not the goal. We are not Coca Cola," he jokes. "We don't have to be present in 145 countries."
The Mariinsky, however, do share other similarities with Coca Cola. It's not just down to the effervescence and the long history. The Mariinsky are the ultimate aggressively expansive opera company. From the cramped corridors backstage piled high with battered tour cases stamped Berlin, New York, and London, to the fact that, from the singers amongst their 2,000-strong staff powerbase, they can cast the Ring three times simultaneously – "Four, if you force me!" says Gergiev. And there are no signs that the theatre will stop expanding. Over the canal, the theatre is currently building a second opera house, which will double the St Petersburg production output while maintaining simultaneous touring. It will also provide 21st-century facilities for contemporary productions, although one cannot help but hope that the Mariinsky will not lose all of its history in the drive towards modernisation.
Gergiev is proud of their ambition and of the fact that a record company executive told him 10 years ago that no recording company could keep up with the Mariinsky's output. His drive is deep-rooted, piqued by a need for recognition, perhaps, which was not always forthcoming. "When I was 25, there were certain opportunities I wanted which I was not given," he says. "There was a great orchestra, the Leningrad Philharmonic, and I was never invited to conduct it. I won the Herbert Von Karajan Conductors Competition in Berlin in 1976, I conducted the Berlin Philharmonic, I was offered concerts all over the world. I thought, now they will invite me to the Leningrad Philharmonic podium. No! It was only when I became music director of the Mariinsky 10 years later."
Twenty years on, as the final strains of Szymanowski's intense Krol Roger fade into loud applause round the gilded auditorium of the Mariinsky, Gergiev can be rather more certain that he is a wanted man.
No one who heard this performance should be under any doubt that King Roger (or Król Roger, in Polish) is a masterpiece. I have seen a great deal of nonsense written about it, including the bizarre claim that there is nothing much in the way of plot. King Roger needs no excuses; what it needs is performances. Covent Garden, are you listening? Probably not, for nothing must interfere with the nth revival of Tosca or La Bohème. (Who actually goes to these things every season?!)
Having been severely disappointed, indeed disillusioned, with ‘Gergiev’s Mahler’, it was a delight to hear Valery Gergiev back on form. He proved himself just as fine a Szymanowskian as Sir Simon Rattle. And his Mariinsky forces were on superlative form too: sultry, seductive, yet precise where necessary too. Gergiev imparted an impeccable sense of forward momentum, without ever driving the music hard. We can all pick out the influences and/or parallels in Szymanowski’s music: Debussy above all here, but also Bartók, Strauss, Wagner, even early Schoenberg. Yet there is undoubtedly an individual voice too, a voice we heard clearly on this occasion. With the possible exception of Elzbieta Szmytka as Roxana, this was not a performance of truly outstanding vocal performances, but there were no weak links either and there was a real sense of a company on stage. Andrzej Dobber was a more than reliable Roger, faithfully served by Sergey Semishkur as Edrisi. After some slightly wayward intonation during the first act, Pavlo Tolstoy impressed as a charismatic Shepherd/Dionysus. Szmytka reminded us of her long pedigree in this music and acted well too.
Mariusz Treliński’s production seemed well considered on the whole. I was not entirely sure why the opera needed updating; it is not as if any of us can have been sated with ‘traditional’ productions. I was less concerned about the loss of the period than that of place, although I should not wish to exaggerate; it seemed a pity though. The sets were generally striking, although the church setting for the first act was uncompromisingly modernistic. Szymanowski’s music had to portray the exoticism all by itself. It could do that, but I did not quite see why a hint of the Byzantine would have been out of place. I was also somewhat at a loss to understand why all the clergy sported mitres. The mise en scène for the second act, however, seemed perfectly to capture the hothouse atmosphere that incites Roxana and eventually even Roger to follow the Shepherd. It is worth mentioning here the hugely beneficial role played throughout by Marc Heinz’s atmospheric and carefully targeted lighting, as well as Tomek Wygoda’s choreography in this particular scene, a fine portrayal of Dionysian erotic abandon. It seems that Treliński purposely downplayed the homoeroticism of this act, wishing the conflict within Roger’s soul ‘to be seen from a wider perspective, as a tale of self-discovery’. I am not sure that we are so overburdened with such material on the operatic stage that this was as necessary as the director seemed to think, although it did no especial harm either. I cared less for the hospital bed setting of the third act: a little bit clichéd perhaps, notwithstanding the justification of Roger’s illness? But the video projections worked well, as did the blinding light of the sun. Although I may have had doubts about some aspects of the production, they in no way detracted from the performance as a whole.
An innovative, multinational staging of Szymanowski's 'King Roger'
By George Loomis
Published: July 22, 2008, IHT
ST. PETERSBURG: The Maryinsky Opera Company will supply the bulk of the opera offerings at the Edinburgh International Festival next month, the company's first engagement in Britain since Wagner's "Ring" cycle in Wales two years ago. Three presentations are planned, of which Karol Szymanowski's "King Roger," the newest addition to the Maryinsky repertoire and a work long championed by a cult of admirers, will likely draw the greatest interest. It will be seen in a production shared with the opera company of Wroclaw, Poland, where it originated last year. St. Petersburg got its first glimpse of it last week, an occasion that also constituted the opera's Russian premiere.
First seen in Warsaw in 1926, "King Roger" is typical of the lush, late Romantic operas from between the wars that have found favor in the last couple of decades, more for the over-the-top richness of their music, one suspects, than for their sometimes murky psychological content. Its hero palpably undergoes a transformation, yet people understandably wrestle with what "King Roger" is all about. It is said to have a strong Nietzschean underpinning, and its mix of Byzantine, Oriental, Greco-Roman and Christian elements further thickens the brew, with the flowery language of Jaroslaw Iwaszkiewicz's libretto tending to have an obfuscatory effect.
But "King Roger" can also be seen as a retelling of Euripides' "Bacchae," on which it is loosely based, with a happy ending, or at least an inconclusive one. Where in the Greek play the god Dionysus destroys Pentheus (Roger's prototype) and the House of Cadmus for their failure to recognize him and the sensuality he represents, here Roger emerges from his encounter with Dionysus a wiser man, to judge from the glorious burst of orchestral C major that accompanies his vision of the sun at the end of the opera. Szymanowski updates the action to Sicily in the 12th century - when Roger II was king - thereby adding Christianity to the side of morality and reason, against which Dionysus and his revelries are pitted.
The Christian element gives rise to some arresting choral writing in Act 1, set in a church. And while the chorus continues to be important thereafter, the musical heart of "King Roger" lies in the orchestra. Without even counting the Oriental touches - the orgiastic Act 2 dance could be first cousin to Salome's "Dance of the Seven Veils" - "King Roger" has a very cosmopolitan sound, incorporating as it does Germanic opulence typical of a Strauss or Mahler, Impressionistic elements from France, and the innovations of Scriabin in Russia. The vocal lines are instrumentally conceived but generally work well for the voices.
The arresting production is by the team of the director Mariusz Trelinski and the set designer Boris Kudlicka, whose staging of Puccini's "Madama Butterfly" for Warsaw, Washington and St. Petersburg won widespread praise. Kudlicka's sets are especially effective, notwithstanding his choice of a modern living room for Act 2 and a hospital bed for Act 3 in lieu of the outdoor settings Szymanowski specified. The hospital room suggests the pressure Roger is under mentally, but by the end of the opera his wife, Queen Roxana, who falls under the Dionysian spell early, has apparently replaced him in the sickbed. It is one of several oddities involving Roxana in a staging that nevertheless captures the mood of the work. Another puzzlement is the flirtatious relationship she has with Roger's reasoned councilor Edrisi, her polar opposite in the opera.
Although the Maryinsky imported the distinguished Polish singers Andrzej Dobber and Elzbieta Szmytka for the production, which is sung in Polish, at the second of two St. Petersburg performances they were disappointingly replaced by Russians, in a typical Maryinsky effort to work a new opera into the repertory. Edem Umerov proved to be a powerful dramatic presence as King Roger, though his voice has a rough edge. Irina Vasilieva, rather blowsy of voice, was less successful: though she managed Roxana's beguiling song in Act 2 affectingly, Wojciech Dziedzic's costumes had her looking like a loose woman. The tenors Sergei Skorokhodov and Vasily Gorshkov gave assured performances as the Shepherd/Dionysus and Edrisi.
Much of the glory of the performance came from the Maryinsky's chorus, which sometimes sang from an upper balcony, and from its orchestra. The orchestral playing bespoke thorough preparation, and Valery Gergiev's deliberate pacing had keen dramatic pulse. I suspect that greater experience with the score will bring greater interpretive risks, but it is plenty satisfactory for now.
One final note: The troupe will be billed in Edinburgh without reference to its former name, Kirov, which was foisted on it following the assassination of the Leningrad Communist Party boss Sergei Kirov in the 1930s but given up in Russia shortly after the fall of Communism. According to a company spokesman, "Kirov" is now history.
Edinburgh festival: Valery Gergiev - a Tsar on the side of the masses
Conductor Valery Gergiev is on a mission to rediscover Russian opera. He tells Ismene Brown why
When Edinburgh International Festival director Jonathan Mills set this year's festival theme - that of shifting borders - he could not have imagined that a shifting border in the Caucasus mountains would become a bloody arena of 21st-century war as the festival opened, nor that two of his best attractions would be natives of that area.
As the Georgian Ballet leaves today, the charismatic conductor Valery Gergiev arrives, and his performances, always bonfires of excitement, may carry even more charge, given that he is a native North Ossetian.
Gergiev, 55, world traveller though he appears, is a deeply patriotic man, which drives his preoccupation with opening up what some Westerners categorise dismissively as "Soviet" music and showing it as simply Russian music. In Edinburgh, following a marathon Prokofiev retrospective of symphonies and string concertos this weekend, he will conduct four Slavic operas, all more or less obscure on the British stage but all likely to be given the kind of advocacy by his Mariinsky Opera that blows away ignorance or prejudice.
Or so Gergiev ardently hopes. I met him last month during the St Petersburg White Nights Festival, at 11.30pm, after he had conducted Verdi's Simon Boccanegra, with a night train to Moscow planned, then a flight to Britain to conduct Mahler at the Barbican with the LSO. In just a month he had done Wagner's Tristan und Isolde, three Rimsky-Korsakov operas, six Stravinsky and Shostakovich ballets, Bryn Terfel and Maria Guleghina galas, and rehearsals for all the operas we'll see here. It didn't seem quite human.
Though he was bone-tired, he talked fervently of his Edinburgh plans. Invited by Mills to perform the Polish masterpiece Król Roger (król means king) in full staging, he came up with a large Russian package of concert performances as well. "For me it was unthinkable to bring a very good Polish opera without bringing Russian ones, too," he says. "It was clear my work with the London Symphony Orchestra would limit my appearances with the Mariinsky in London, and my Mariinsky work, with unusual programmes, was quite liked in London, so I felt that going to Edinburgh would be a good thing."
The Slavic operas he has chosen all portray a man on an internal journey, whereas Italian and French 19th-century opera usually centres on romantic love. Szymanowski's magnificent 1926 Król Roger has a king unsettled morally, emotionally and sexually by a shepherd (Aug 25 and 27). In Rachmaninov's one-act 1893 Aleko, an upper-class lad runs off to join the gipsies, with tragic results; Gergiev pairs it (Aug 24) with the central act of Prokofiev's Semyon Kotko, a highly political 1940 story about a Bolshevik soldier's struggle to find domestic happiness. Rodion Shchedrin's 2002 opera The Enchanted Wanderer (Aug 26) shows another civilised man led astray by a gipsy, an excuse for rural instruments such as guslis and balalaikas in his score.
However, Gergiev was not governed by the stories' intriguing convergence. "It's true that the Russian operas are based on novels or romances by big writers - Pushkin, Leskov, Katayev - but for me it's the musical value of having young Rachmaninov or very mature Prokofiev or an opera from a new millennium. We wanted a group of operas that travels across time in music.
"I really don't know why Aleko isn't done more often - maybe you need a Tom Hampson or a Hvorostovsky to take it up and two big-name singers to be attracted to it. And Semyon Kotko is mature Prokofiev. It's very important to do it again, after we presented it in London in 2000. There will be 95 per cent of people who don't know how good this opera is, especially the third act, which is really phenomenal."
Król Roger's richly romantic style - with echoes of Richard Strauss and Scriabin - and its full staging makes it the most obvious public attraction, but Gergiev, though a longtime Szymanowski fan, is even more evangelical about the Shchedrin.
In the West, Shchedrin is broadly known for two things - for being married to the great Bolshoi ballerina Maya Plisetskaya and for the ballet Carmen Suite, a free reinvention of Bizet (Matthew Bourne used it for his contemporary dance production, Car Man). In post-Soviet Russia, Shchedrin's reputation suffered by comparison with Prokofiev, Shostakovich and Alfred Schnittke, and his recent 75th birthday celebration in Moscow, helmed by Gergiev, was greeted as an impressive rediscovery by home audiences.
Gergiev gets angry about the politicising of Russian composers' reputations. "I'm sure Shchedrin's opera will stand very confidently around the world. He is a master. He never created nonsense or left anything unclear. His language goes from the very complicated to the simple - he knows what he's doing. I love his composition for many things, especially the choral theme and individual singing.
"This other stuff is a product of those propaganda wars, those boring people who don't hear the music and look and try to see who was relatively close to political process. It's a non-starter. Like calling Semyon Kotko Prokofiev's 'Soviet' opera. Yes, it is not the Prokofiev who was a young man in Paris or Chicago, it was written after he came back to the country in which he was born. That is the music."
Recently Gergiev has exercised his enormous power at the Mariinsky to enthusiastically uncork an area that had seemed deadened by the loss of the vast Soviet theatre subsidies: new Russian opera. Shchedrin's was commissioned by Lorin Maazel for New York, but back home Gergiev has ordered up no fewer than five new Russian operas for the Mariinsky - a feat of commissioning on a Tsarist scale.
"It's what I promised. We'll bring them all to London [the Barbican] in 2009. They're waiting, already composed, most of them." In his Mahler season at the Barbican this season, Gergiev smartly shoe-horned compositions by Tishchenko and Karetnikov alongside the Austrian epics: "Something unusual from Russia again. Basically I felt that just doing Mahler symphonies in London might be interesting for me and my orchestras, but for the public there is no extra message."
For a man who strides so forcefully and unimpeded across the musical world, he talks about us joes, the humble audience, a lot, I say. His answer is not that of a Tsar: "Well, it's who we're working for."